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review A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More 103 From the award winning author of 'My Heart is My Own The Life of Mary ueen of Scots' The title is somewhat misleading This is really a light biography of Thomas More where Margaret plays the main supporting role rivaled only by Erasmus The result is a readable enough book although while some figures are introduced others seem to just drop in out of nowhere It is at its best explaining how More an avowed humanist known for his sense of humor and relatively open mind ended up burning a few heretics The answer lies in faith and that he was a bridge figure between the religious dogmatism of the Medieval age and the opening of the mind which allowed the very heretics he despised to prosper That said given the horrors of the world after More s age and our own dogmatic follies one wonders how removed we are from More s dilemma that is an open minded man who find himself in a world taking sides Say Your Abc With Me really a light biography of Thomas More where Margaret plays the main supporting The Outcast Dead role ಅಮ್ಮಾವ್ರ ಗಂಡ rivaled only by Erasmus The Potato Surprise A Brimstone Preuel result is a Winning The Player readable enough book although while some figures are introduced others seem to just drop in out of nowhere It is at its best explaining how More an avowed humanist known for his sense of humor and Hell for the Company Brimstone #1 relatively open mind ended up burning a few heretics The answer lies in faith and that he was a bridge figure between the A Year Down Yonder religious dogmatism of the Medieval age and the opening of the mind which allowed the very heretics he despised to prosper That said given the horrors of the world after More s age and our own dogmatic follies one wonders how Getting Naked removed we are from More s dilemma that is an open minded man who find himself in a world taking sides

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review A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More 103 This book will break open a secret It is a gripping tale of love loyalty and domestic This is a very readable biographical account in tandem of Sir Thomas More author scholar statesman martyr and his eldest daughter Margaret While Thomas s story is very well known the author shows that Meg herself was a philosopher and writer in her own right There is plenty of primary source material to illustrate this I am often reminded of Stephen Greenblatt s observation that it is astonishing to what extent this society valued contracts and writing things down in general Reading this today it is sad and unfortunate that a first class mind like Margaret s was prevented from fully participating in the intellectual world of her day but it s very in keeping with how we understand the culture of 16th century England What seems absolutely unfathomable to me is how she married a guy who seemed like such a nasty little toad from the get go even with the realization that marriage at the time was viewed as of a contact based alliance system Within this framework she still seemed to get shafted especially when compared to the amenable matches her sisters and brother ended up with The climax of the story is Thomas s refusal to endorse the king s break with the Catholic church and his subseuent imprisonment and beheading During this time it was Margaret who was his spiritual and intellectual companion supporting him in his refusal to take the oath proclaiming Henry the head of the church in England This book does a wonderful job of explaining the progression of events while at the same time presenting the emotional family story of the Mores The account of his final days was especially harrowing If my father was in the Tower I d cave in a minute take the oath Dad Take the oath whatever That is why no one in my family is ever going to achieve sainthood The Outcast Dead readable biographical account in tandem of Sir Thomas More author scholar statesman martyr and his eldest daughter Margaret While Thomas s story is very well known the author shows that Meg herself was a philosopher and writer in her own ಅಮ್ಮಾವ್ರ ಗಂಡ right There is plenty of primary source material to illustrate this I am often Potato Surprise A Brimstone Preuel reminded of Stephen Greenblatt s observation that it is astonishing to what extent this society valued contracts and writing things down in general Reading this today it is sad and unfortunate that a first class mind like Margaret s was prevented from fully participating in the intellectual world of her day but it s very in keeping with how we understand the culture of 16th century England What seems absolutely unfathomable to me is how she married a guy who seemed like such a nasty little toad from the get go even with the Winning The Player realization that marriage at the time was viewed as of a contact based alliance system Within this framework she still seemed to get shafted especially when compared to the amenable matches her sisters and brother ended up with The climax of the story is Thomas s Hell for the Company Brimstone #1 refusal to endorse the king s break with the Catholic church and his subseuent imprisonment and beheading During this time it was Margaret who was his spiritual and intellectual companion supporting him in his A Year Down Yonder refusal to take the oath proclaiming Henry the head of the church in England This book does a wonderful job of explaining the progression of events while at the same time presenting the emotional family story of the Mores The account of his final days was especially harrowing If my father was in the Tower I d cave in a minute take the oath Dad Take the oath whatever That is why no one in my family is ever going to achieve sainthood

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review A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More 103 Happiness that came to be overwhelmed by the forces of ambition deceit and treachery My TLS reviewMartyr s child John Guy A DAUGHTER S LOVE THOMAS AND MARGARET MORE Review TLS 27 February 2009 p 10Thomas More was beheaded on July 6 1535 His story is well known The role of his daughter Margaret Roper in that story less so John Guy whose last subject was Mary ueen of Scots has found a new tragic heroine in Margaret She seems to be his ideal woman so much so that his treatment of her husband William Roper seems written from the perspective of a jealous lover Professor Guy reprimands Roper for failing to provide financial aid to his father in law after he resigned the Chancellorship and generally deplores his prioritizing of property over principle If only William her husband could have given her the love and support she needed she might have recovered a sense of inner peaceafter More s death but his grasping restless mind was fixed on worldly advantage Guy makes a convincing case for Margaret as the great woman behind the great man Margaret was her father s main correspondent and confidante and visited him regularly in the Tower while her mother Lady Alice only made the journey once Her contemporaries extolled Margaret s virtues as an example of the benefits of education for women More had her schooled in Latin and Greek alongside her brothers and sisters in his school at Chelsea At 16 her writings so impressed the Bishop of Exeter that his countenance showed that his words of praise were all too poor to express what he felt and whilst still a teenager she was able to correct Erasmus s edition of the letters of St Cyprian Margaret often remains in the shadows of the narrative however as do many early modern women the evidence simply does not exist to tell the full story of their lives In many cases we can only imagine Nonetheless educated imaginings are vital for recovering these untold stories and it is testament to the maturation of feminist history that a mainstream author such as Guy recognises this He perhaps goes too far when he suggests that Margaret might have been able to avert the Reformation The Church authorities were unable to see that the one person in England who could match Tyndale as a translator and stylist and could be relied upon to conform to Catholic teaching and doctrine was Margaret Roper But of course she was a woman so it never entered their heads Guy s book is based on a thorough examination of the sources The depth of telling detail he is able to deploy is astounding It is difficult for biographers of St Thomas not to stray into hagiographical territory But Guy does not shield us from the unsavoury aspects of Thomas character such as his scatological prose he once accused Martin Dorp a rival intellectual of being in love with himself and his opinions just as every man thinks his own fart smells sweet and his glee in persecuting heretics he called Thomas Hitton the devil s stinking martyr as he condemned him to the stake These details however are used to illustrate further the passion with which More acted on his principlesGuy s book is rich with tragic irony as when More addresses the new King and ueen on their way to their coronation in 1509 He acclaimed Katharine of Aragon as the future mother of kingsfecund in male offspring will she render your dynasty stable and enduring for all time The conseuences of the failure to realize these platitudinous hopes set in train the decisions that led directly to Thomas s own death Meteorological history even provides Guy with pathetic fallacy even as Thomas had been speaking the sky turned pitch black and it poured on Henry s parade Guy s powerful dramatic telling of the climactic scene where Margaret forces her way through the soldiers on Tower Wharf to embrace her father one last time before his death is genuinely movingThere is fortunately some comic relief Guy notes that More described himself as a of nature even half a giglot and A giglot is one excessively prone to jesting and merriment someone whose sense of humour could lead him into wantonness More once played a prank in his role as judge of the Court of Chancery he sent a suitor who had tried to sell his neighbour s wife a wardrobe of old clothes pretending they were new to go seek his remedy from More s wife Lady Alice at Chelsea The litigant received short shrift Ultimately the tragedy of More brings into sharp relief the ever relevant uestion of whether private principles can survive the inevitable compromises of public life and whether the able citizen should uietly pursue his own ends or attempt to ameliorate society by putting himself at the service of the state Unlike most tragic heroes the prescient More had long been aware of his fate He had already explored this conflict albeit indecisively in Utopia He attempted to safeguard his children s inheritance in vain by placing all his property into trust on the day before the Act of Succession became law He even staged a dress rehearsal arrest at Chelsea to help his family prepare mentally for the worst More s end shows the dangers of public life for the man willing to stand against the tide His friend Erasmus knew he did not have the strength for martyrdom himself as he wrote to Richard Pace in 1521 Mine was never the spirit to risk my life for the truth I fear that were strife to break out I shall behave like Peter When popes and emperors make the right decisions I follow which is godly if they decide wrongly I tolerate them which is safe Guy s tragic love story ends with father and daughter being reunited on Fifth Avenue New York where images of both of them are kept in nearby museums This image is somewhat marred by a visit to the Frick Collection where you will find the painted More gazing for eternity not into the eyes of his beloved daughter but into those piggy ones belonging to Thomas Cromwell his nemesis whose portrait Holbein also painted


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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy This is an extremely well written and exhaustively researched book from a well known specialist in Tudor history John Guy has written extensively on Sir St Thomas More but this book focuses on his relationship with his eldest daughter Margaret affectionately known as Meg Unlike most women of the time her intelligence was recognized and fostered by her father who had her educated along with her siblings and som

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy summary A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More This book intrigued me because I know the story where Meg goes to The Tower and retrieved her father's head after it had been on Traitor's Gate I know the story about More and Henry VIII but I was hoping to learn about the man's personal life which I did His daughter Meg made sure his writings and letters were preserved an

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy This is a very readable biographical account in tandem of Sir Thomas More author scholar statesman martyr and his eldest daughter Margaret While Thomas's story is very well known the author shows that Meg herself was a philosopher and writer in her own right There is plenty of primary source material to illustrate this; I am often r

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy While not absorbing by any stretch of the imagination this was an interesting and solidly researched insight into Sir later Saint Thomas More and his oldest daughter Margaret Due to lack of a historical record about her it really focuses on Thomas than on Meg One thing that I felt was a bit odd was the fact that even though the motivation for many of his decisions was religious it was for the most part a ver

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    download ↠ eBook or Kindle ePUB ¾ John Guy John Guy ¾ 3 free read (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy Technically the book is about Thomas More's career but Margaret is a focus for the few chapters there are records of her activities and literary efforts She was a very fine translator of both Greek and Latin texts and was a perceptive scholar even finding errors in Erasmus's work It was interesting to see how Peter Giles Erasmus and More interacted with each other and how their lives turned out influenced by each other The author

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    John Guy ¾ 3 free read (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy My TLS reviewMartyr's child ‘John Guy A DAUGHTER'S LOVE THOMAS AND MARGARET MORE’ Review TLS 27 February 2009 p 10Thomas More was beheaded on July 6 1535 His story is well known The role of his daughter Margaret Roper in that story less so John Guy whose last subject was Mary ueen of Scots has found a new

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy John Guy ¾ 3 free read summary A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More The title is somewhat misleading This is really a light biography of Thomas More where Margaret plays the main supporting role rivaled only by Erasmus The result is a readable enough book although while some figures are introduced others see

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy John Guy ¾ 3 free read download ↠ eBook or Kindle ePUB ¾ John Guy A solid rendering of Thomas More's life and thought While the tone is basically one of scholarly history it is not uite as dense as Peter Ackroyd's biography of More Therefore it is easier to comprehend More's thought and principlesOne thing though the thorough explication of More's reason for refusing King Henry's oath n

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy John Guy's forte is Tudor England and this history presents an informative story of a man who pushed many social and intellectual boundaries while rigidly adhering to the narrowest of Catholic theologies More is fascinating enough but his daughter Margaret perhaps stands out even further in a society where women rarely enjoyed education or had the opportunity to engage men intellectually on anything close to an eual ba

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    (PDF/EPUB) [A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More] ↠ John Guy I enjoyed this book a lot but was disappointed that I didn't close it having a really good picture of Margaret in my head I guess that this was part of the author's point In the end Margaret gave much of what she had to make sure that her father's memory and especially his writings didn't die with him This is a beautiful

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  • Hardcover
  • 378
  • A Daughter's Love Thomas and Margaret More
  • John Guy
  • English
  • 13 February 2018
  • 9780007192311